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Apple-Core.Net -- http://www.apple-core.net/ | http://www.apple-core.net/forums/ -- The latest Mac-related forum to hit the scene. By the people, for the people, and so much more.
Presenting you with the first ever forum democracy is AppleCore. As a member of the website, you are encouraged to give your utmost input on all topics or subject concerning the site, forum, and anything else. Would you like a spot as a mod, admin, or even new site owner? Come one and come all to be elected into office. AppleCore is your place.
The Team
David Dunn -- Administrator & Owner
"The interOracle" -- Administrator & Co-Owner
Keith "X" -- Asst. Administrator & Designer/Dev.
Jeff "Bean" -- Asst. Administrator & Designer/Dev.
Joshua Coventry -- Moderator & Designer/Dev.
Geoff Myers -- Moderator & Designer/Dev.
Robert Hest -- Moderator & Elections Manager
Nick "Zbornack" -- Designer/Dev.
Main/Upcoming Features
Website -- http://www.apple-core.net/ -- Coming soon is the fully-fledged front page and website of Apple-Core.net. The site has been up since April 11 and is already making ground-breaking progress. Contained on the front page is a preview of the many features to come.
Forum -- http://www.apple-core.net/forums/ -- Up since only April 11, in roughly one week, the community squadron and its helpful members have accumualted a total of over 1000 articles and a total of 40 contributing individuals. Ever-growing, many more styles, themes, mods, etc. are to come. Register today and give us your ideas & feedback on the forum and you have a good chance of becoming a moderator in the upcoming elections!
Gallery -- TBA -- A functional gallery is still awaiting its move from the previous preliminary domain of AppleCore, but will be a great place for images, movies, audio, and files of many other kinds.
Arcade -- TBA -- The arcade will offer many of the games we grew up on and loved, along with an integrated scoreboard that automatically remembers a member's username from the rest of the site and is updated.
RSS Feed & News -- TBA -- In the coming week, the RSS feed should be up and working along with news for the front page and elsewhere. In the future, AppleCore hopes to become one of Spymac's very own news tracks!
Other -- TBA -- See the front page for all of the other features and parts of the site that are soon to come! A "history" page of the website with the back-stories of the team and the website, a "retro" page for all of you old-school Mac, computing, gaming, and music geeks, auctions (yes'r, yes'm!), and more to come!
Enjoy
Now head on over and have some fun! Please, register and suggest each, every, and any idea or comment you may have. Your feedback is crucially helpful in the advancement of the site and its parts!
Everyone is welcome. You will soon notice that the AppleCore forums are a blend of professionality and relaxation, with a perky look yet highly un-restrictive and laid-back attitude. We just want everyone to have some fun.
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firewood
May 1, 01:29 PM
Thank you for your quick reply..
How long do you think it will take to have to knowledge to actually write my own App. That would be App Store quality ?
Between several months and never.
Are you in college? Learning to write a quality iPhone app without any previous experience in programming or design might be equivalent to getting at least a "B" in 3 semester length classes, tough ones at that. The variation is large. A few people are whiz kids. Many flunk out.
Check out the Stanford course videos on iPhone development. But the prerequisite is already being a good programmer.
There are also point-and-click tools that will almost write an app for someone with determination at following instructions, but almost no programming knowledge. See buzztouch.com for one example. But the types of apps that can be created by such tools are quite limited.
How long do you think it will take to have to knowledge to actually write my own App. That would be App Store quality ?
Between several months and never.
Are you in college? Learning to write a quality iPhone app without any previous experience in programming or design might be equivalent to getting at least a "B" in 3 semester length classes, tough ones at that. The variation is large. A few people are whiz kids. Many flunk out.
Check out the Stanford course videos on iPhone development. But the prerequisite is already being a good programmer.
There are also point-and-click tools that will almost write an app for someone with determination at following instructions, but almost no programming knowledge. See buzztouch.com for one example. But the types of apps that can be created by such tools are quite limited.
Abstract
Apr 7, 04:54 AM
For most things, I don't have a favourite.
Apple (for laptops only)
Uniqlo if I'm in Asia, and only for things like underpants. :p
Nikon, but only because every SLR user is stuck with one brand anyway.
Otherwise, I get the best/aesthetically pleasing thing I can reasonably afford.
Apple (for laptops only)
Uniqlo if I'm in Asia, and only for things like underpants. :p
Nikon, but only because every SLR user is stuck with one brand anyway.
Otherwise, I get the best/aesthetically pleasing thing I can reasonably afford.
r6girl
Sep 17, 07:55 PM
BART is great! yes, strange/bizarre/disgusting things can happen, as discussed in the thread tech4all referred to, but i've found it to be reliable and safe (as long as you use common sense, as already pointed out). i used to use BART to commute every day to and from work, but my current job is not anywhere near a BART line so i really only use BART nowadays when i'm going into the city.
so, yes, don't bother renting a car and just use BART. enjoy your trip to the bay area! are you going to try to make it to the apple headquarters in cupertino? BART doesn't go that far south, so you'll need to find some connecting public transportation systems to get there...
marianne
so, yes, don't bother renting a car and just use BART. enjoy your trip to the bay area! are you going to try to make it to the apple headquarters in cupertino? BART doesn't go that far south, so you'll need to find some connecting public transportation systems to get there...
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Laird Knox
Feb 4, 10:46 PM
Many years ago I did things like that with CGIs and Perl. I just did a quick search and found this page: http://www.hawkwings.net/plugins.htm
It looks like you can script Mail with AppleScript. Take a look at the extensive list. There might be just what you need there. Or you might find something close that can be modified to do the job.
It looks like you can script Mail with AppleScript. Take a look at the extensive list. There might be just what you need there. Or you might find something close that can be modified to do the job.
TimTheEnchanter
Jan 17, 10:24 AM
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Bob_Barker
Oct 4, 09:46 PM
uicandrew,
While the terms of the warranty permit Apple to replace defective phones with refurbished parts, I have no reason to believe this unit is refurbished. The iPhone came with the plastic adhered to the screen and has no blemishes or anything.
I lost my patience and went ahead and downgraded to 1.0.2. I'm really enjoying using the camera with Pushr, so I may need to rethink trading.
I put a crystal film screen protector on it as soon as I removed the plastic, so it's still pristine.
While the terms of the warranty permit Apple to replace defective phones with refurbished parts, I have no reason to believe this unit is refurbished. The iPhone came with the plastic adhered to the screen and has no blemishes or anything.
I lost my patience and went ahead and downgraded to 1.0.2. I'm really enjoying using the camera with Pushr, so I may need to rethink trading.
I put a crystal film screen protector on it as soon as I removed the plastic, so it's still pristine.
darkwing
Mar 27, 10:55 AM
Aw man :(
I would love, love, LOVE to help. But I'm so time-strapped right now I'm not even keeping up with Nintendo Players adequately. Part-time IT job + student = suckage.
Quit your whining... I did full time work and full time school! I took 9 classes (1 independent, 4 online, 4 in class) one quarter to boot! :P
Jimmi, I'd volunteer but I've got to study for an exit exam in May that I didn't pass because of what I said in the previous paragraph. :P Plus I have this pesky full time job. :P
I would love, love, LOVE to help. But I'm so time-strapped right now I'm not even keeping up with Nintendo Players adequately. Part-time IT job + student = suckage.
Quit your whining... I did full time work and full time school! I took 9 classes (1 independent, 4 online, 4 in class) one quarter to boot! :P
Jimmi, I'd volunteer but I've got to study for an exit exam in May that I didn't pass because of what I said in the previous paragraph. :P Plus I have this pesky full time job. :P
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Koodauw
Nov 28, 06:21 PM
So you would recomend the v600 over the v400 as far as battery life and quality?
It all depends. I liked the V600 better than the V400 for these reasons.
It was made out of Metal/Aluminium instead of plastic.
I seemed to be able to hear better on it. Although i think it was do mainly to ergonomics.
I liked the look and feel of it much better. To me the V400 was the beta, and the V600 was the final product.
I value style, and durability, so I went with the V600. Also, I had a V60 which I loved. Possibly the best phone I have ever owned, and the V600 remind me much of it. I'm sure was a big part of my decision.
And as for battery life, if I remember correctly it was about the same. No huge difference.
So I guess if your an average user, The V400 is a good fit.
BTW, I dont think Cingular sells the V600 anymore. I think they replaced it with a 500 series phone. Which is made out of plastic :(
It all depends. I liked the V600 better than the V400 for these reasons.
It was made out of Metal/Aluminium instead of plastic.
I seemed to be able to hear better on it. Although i think it was do mainly to ergonomics.
I liked the look and feel of it much better. To me the V400 was the beta, and the V600 was the final product.
I value style, and durability, so I went with the V600. Also, I had a V60 which I loved. Possibly the best phone I have ever owned, and the V600 remind me much of it. I'm sure was a big part of my decision.
And as for battery life, if I remember correctly it was about the same. No huge difference.
So I guess if your an average user, The V400 is a good fit.
BTW, I dont think Cingular sells the V600 anymore. I think they replaced it with a 500 series phone. Which is made out of plastic :(
zblaxberg
Apr 4, 08:04 AM
As I've posted in multiple other threads that are not outdated and ask the same question. Look into this page that reveals the compatible camera list for iMovie.
http://help.apple.com/imovie/cameras/en/index.html?lang=en_US
http://help.apple.com/imovie/cameras/en/index.html?lang=en_US
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waw74
Apr 21, 09:17 PM
couple options.
airtunes (airplay). there are a few options for all in one speakers, not really sure what's available yet, not really cheap though. (don't think any of these (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ihome-debuts-more-airplay-speakers-iw2-iw3-join-iw1/) are available yet)
or you could do multiple airport expresses and plug speakers into them. would let you set up several speakers around the room and so they are all at low volume.
airfoil (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) - similar to airtunes, but gives you a bit more flexibility.
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airtunes (airplay). there are a few options for all in one speakers, not really sure what's available yet, not really cheap though. (don't think any of these (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/ihome-debuts-more-airplay-speakers-iw2-iw3-join-iw1/) are available yet)
or you could do multiple airport expresses and plug speakers into them. would let you set up several speakers around the room and so they are all at low volume.
airfoil (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) - similar to airtunes, but gives you a bit more flexibility.
you can stream...
ChrisA
Apr 26, 06:19 PM
Hey, I have a few questions regarding recording interface and mics. All I want to be able to record is my guitar and voice at the same time and also separately. This is what I am looking at getting and I was just wondering on your opinions.
If it's an electric guitar and you want to plugit in directly then you are OK. But I'd go for an interface with two phantom powered XLR mic inputs then you can mic a guitar speaker cab or mic an acoustic guitar.
I like the Presonsus "audio box" but any good brand with specs like that will work.
One thing I look for is that the audio interface work on the Mac with no drivers to install. This way you never have to wait and hope that new drivers are available after an OS upgrade. Devices that are "class compliant" don't need drivers, other then those built into Mac OS.
Bottom line is you need to keep your options open on how to record the guitar and for different kinds of guitar like acoustic, acoustic with pickup, electric with direct plug in and a mic'd speaker. Until you've tried you don't know what you will like best. As an example, I'm building a speaker dummy load/simulator that will have an XLR line out. This will (I hope) capture the amp's tone (but not the speaker's tone) without need of a microphone -- it's good to try stuff.
As for a good vocal mic. Looks like you have the right kind, but the brand is a personal preference thing
If it's an electric guitar and you want to plugit in directly then you are OK. But I'd go for an interface with two phantom powered XLR mic inputs then you can mic a guitar speaker cab or mic an acoustic guitar.
I like the Presonsus "audio box" but any good brand with specs like that will work.
One thing I look for is that the audio interface work on the Mac with no drivers to install. This way you never have to wait and hope that new drivers are available after an OS upgrade. Devices that are "class compliant" don't need drivers, other then those built into Mac OS.
Bottom line is you need to keep your options open on how to record the guitar and for different kinds of guitar like acoustic, acoustic with pickup, electric with direct plug in and a mic'd speaker. Until you've tried you don't know what you will like best. As an example, I'm building a speaker dummy load/simulator that will have an XLR line out. This will (I hope) capture the amp's tone (but not the speaker's tone) without need of a microphone -- it's good to try stuff.
As for a good vocal mic. Looks like you have the right kind, but the brand is a personal preference thing
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homerjward
Dec 5, 11:29 PM
Thanks for that 101 � it helps.
What does designating something a "title" do if you are also putting in size 5 green text?
I know how to customize my CSS within GoLive's graphical interface so that "title" means something by going into the CSS menus and then clicking on my CSSs "tags" on the sideline bar thingy. In other words, I create a standard title look without code. :o
the title i made is just the page title. i don't know css yet :o
What does designating something a "title" do if you are also putting in size 5 green text?
I know how to customize my CSS within GoLive's graphical interface so that "title" means something by going into the CSS menus and then clicking on my CSSs "tags" on the sideline bar thingy. In other words, I create a standard title look without code. :o
the title i made is just the page title. i don't know css yet :o
Macaholic G5
Nov 6, 01:04 PM
BTW Macaholic, how did you get sooooo much folding power?!? And are you folding for Team MR?!?
Bought it or built it myself. A man has to have a hobby. ;) I fold with Team MacOS X. Calling all Mac folders. Please spread the SMP client news (http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=16715&highlight=) far and wide. Oh, did I mention it is SPEEDY and worth your time?! Can you say NATIVE?! I thought so. Now GO! :D
Bought it or built it myself. A man has to have a hobby. ;) I fold with Team MacOS X. Calling all Mac folders. Please spread the SMP client news (http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=16715&highlight=) far and wide. Oh, did I mention it is SPEEDY and worth your time?! Can you say NATIVE?! I thought so. Now GO! :D
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gorskiegangsta
May 2, 11:58 PM
Are you sure the 2008 model has DDR3? If so, then it means the 2008 model is compatible with DDR3 so there should be no issues, it'll just downclock to 1067mhz.
roland.g
May 5, 10:43 AM
Like I said, I'm just waiting for the WWDC announcement before I take any further action. If Apple says a July release, I might wait. If they say September, I'll have to freeze myself like Cartman.
I should also mention that any decision I make will also depend on the price. If Lion is $129, I'll be persuaded to wait. If it is substantially less (say around $29-$49), I'll definitely buy the iMac sooner than later.
+1. I expect it will be released by end of June or early July. I'm not in a hurry as I have a family member buying my 2007 iMac. And I would prefer it pre-installed. Price is certainly a consideration. But as some have pointed out, with the Mac App Store, they may very well sell the DL version for less. I also hope Lion gets rid of the traditional optical and goes USB or DL only. That said I would love to see all restore disks be USB but I'm not sure that OS X can boot from a USB?
Why would that be the case? If you want to sell your computer and you installed lion yourself, why would a computer with lion installed by Apple be worth any more assuming both systems have the same hardware?
I don't think it affects resale, however I prefer that my restore disk be Lion. Let's say you want to do a wipe and reinstall for some reason. That would involve using your restore disk, then installing Lion. I suppose you could install Lion without your restore disk, but Lion won't include iLife on it, so you still need to go back and install those Apps from the original restore disk. Just more of a pain.
I should also mention that any decision I make will also depend on the price. If Lion is $129, I'll be persuaded to wait. If it is substantially less (say around $29-$49), I'll definitely buy the iMac sooner than later.
+1. I expect it will be released by end of June or early July. I'm not in a hurry as I have a family member buying my 2007 iMac. And I would prefer it pre-installed. Price is certainly a consideration. But as some have pointed out, with the Mac App Store, they may very well sell the DL version for less. I also hope Lion gets rid of the traditional optical and goes USB or DL only. That said I would love to see all restore disks be USB but I'm not sure that OS X can boot from a USB?
Why would that be the case? If you want to sell your computer and you installed lion yourself, why would a computer with lion installed by Apple be worth any more assuming both systems have the same hardware?
I don't think it affects resale, however I prefer that my restore disk be Lion. Let's say you want to do a wipe and reinstall for some reason. That would involve using your restore disk, then installing Lion. I suppose you could install Lion without your restore disk, but Lion won't include iLife on it, so you still need to go back and install those Apps from the original restore disk. Just more of a pain.
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psyduckiee
Apr 5, 02:23 AM
Looks like a nice case. Only concern would be how it would look after a few days of use when dust gets behind the case and it shows.
PlaceofDis
Aug 6, 02:24 PM
very nice. good work. *cough*copycat*cough*
gentleman00
Jun 22, 01:56 PM
Does it make a difference where I purchase my iPhone 4?:confused:
NickK1066
Oct 1, 07:46 AM
So is everyone gonna have to change their checkout page from "buy this song" to "license this song"?
So it will be interesting if the licencing allows the user to hold the content without a licence (just as a car can be held without having a driving licence).
This means that content could be distributed legally without the need of distributors. Then only when you listen to it do you require a licence to listen to it.
No copyright theft, just unlicenced use. So will the record industry attempt to become the sole licence issuer - you can bet on it..
Although that does not prevent the licence from stating that you cannot copy it etc. So what's interesting is - who is going to read the billion different licences that will now bombard the user? This is a change without the rules inplace to protect the public. This has now made the purchasing of music online unfeasable for the public user and you will have to buy through a provider because of the legal minefield.
That is *if* you have agreed to the licence. Is there a law requiring you to have a licence to listen to music? Not that I'm aware of... it would then fall on the music owner to prove on each case that you're an unlicenced individual and that they have to then show how much they'd loose in revenue to the judge... so the value (cost per track) is really low although you may end up with the legal fees..
Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
So it will be interesting if the licencing allows the user to hold the content without a licence (just as a car can be held without having a driving licence).
This means that content could be distributed legally without the need of distributors. Then only when you listen to it do you require a licence to listen to it.
No copyright theft, just unlicenced use. So will the record industry attempt to become the sole licence issuer - you can bet on it..
Although that does not prevent the licence from stating that you cannot copy it etc. So what's interesting is - who is going to read the billion different licences that will now bombard the user? This is a change without the rules inplace to protect the public. This has now made the purchasing of music online unfeasable for the public user and you will have to buy through a provider because of the legal minefield.
That is *if* you have agreed to the licence. Is there a law requiring you to have a licence to listen to music? Not that I'm aware of... it would then fall on the music owner to prove on each case that you're an unlicenced individual and that they have to then show how much they'd loose in revenue to the judge... so the value (cost per track) is really low although you may end up with the legal fees..
Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
cocky jeremy
Apr 1, 10:57 PM
Nope. Opera is dead in Lion too. :(
Blue Velvet
Dec 20, 08:54 AM
First of all, since you've said that you're not a designer and that it's going to be silkscreened, have you talked to your screen printer about setting the artwork up properly? It should be a two colour job to keep costs down and should be done in either InDesign/Quark or Illustrator in spot colours. An RGB or CMYK large format bubblejet may prove more costly at that quantity at a lower quality.
The first thing I look at is type and the biggest problem you have here is the tiny size of the web address. It's simply not legible or clear at that size. Apart from that I'm not sure where to start as there's a lot going on in there. My impulse would be to simplify it, the little touches like the leaves and the mains plug, add to a sense of disorganisation. Personally, I'd start with a solid green and leave off the white swash at the bottom unless that's a critical part of the branding. Then, I'd try to stick to just one typeface; you've got some Futura and some Impact or some other black condensed sans in there... I'd stick to one typeface, one symbol of electronic waste, one leaf. Keep it simple.
There's an awkward empty space top right which makes it feel unbalanced. The arrow also looks like an afterthought, squeezed in into the lower right hand corner. My main feeling is that you've overworked it and it's become a bit of a clutter. If you make some changes, I'll be happy to provide more feedback.
The first thing I look at is type and the biggest problem you have here is the tiny size of the web address. It's simply not legible or clear at that size. Apart from that I'm not sure where to start as there's a lot going on in there. My impulse would be to simplify it, the little touches like the leaves and the mains plug, add to a sense of disorganisation. Personally, I'd start with a solid green and leave off the white swash at the bottom unless that's a critical part of the branding. Then, I'd try to stick to just one typeface; you've got some Futura and some Impact or some other black condensed sans in there... I'd stick to one typeface, one symbol of electronic waste, one leaf. Keep it simple.
There's an awkward empty space top right which makes it feel unbalanced. The arrow also looks like an afterthought, squeezed in into the lower right hand corner. My main feeling is that you've overworked it and it's become a bit of a clutter. If you make some changes, I'll be happy to provide more feedback.
Maclver
May 1, 04:27 PM
The OP stated iLife 11
Platform
Feb 5, 04:47 AM
I just had to post to tell everyone how much I love this thing. How can anyone live with a one button mouse?
I has three buttones on the left side of the mouse for your thumb. I have these set for one to go forward/next/page down and one to go backward/previous/page up and then the middle one to flip between pages that are open within one application. Makes browsing macrumors and multiple threads fast especially with the scroll wheel on the top.
And then you can click the scroll whell, I have that programed for expose to only show the desktop.
And then wait, still two more buttons. One of the buttons on the scroll wheel I have programmed to expose all windows and the other to show all the windows in one application. What is that like 6 buttons?
I has three buttones on the left side of the mouse for your thumb. I have these set for one to go forward/next/page down and one to go backward/previous/page up and then the middle one to flip between pages that are open within one application. Makes browsing macrumors and multiple threads fast especially with the scroll wheel on the top.
And then you can click the scroll whell, I have that programed for expose to only show the desktop.
And then wait, still two more buttons. One of the buttons on the scroll wheel I have programmed to expose all windows and the other to show all the windows in one application. What is that like 6 buttons?